Why I’m Against FIRE

Why I’m against FIRE. Sounds weird doesn’t it? So many financial bloggers love the concept of fire and track and document their way towards it. I am guilty of it, yes I would love to “retire” earlier and definitely love the idea of having a passive income to support my lifestyle.

Why Im Against FIRE

What is FIRE?

FIRE stands for Financial Independence Retire Early. Financial Independence is basically creating a passive income stream through various means to support the lifestyle you would like to live without relying on a working income. Retire Early is basically as it sounds. The average person retires between 60 and 70, in fire you would like to retire earlier. Let’s say 40-50. To do this generally you invest as much as you possibly can right now, cutting back however you can.



Now I am all for creating a fantastic passive income and working whenever I feel like it. Sure some days I don’t want to go into work, I would rather hang out with our son or go fishing with some friends. Being a landscaper for the last 19 years has gotten me into a position to be a salaried employee. We don’t do snow in the winter, the company does nothing in the winter. Its time to relax and go away on vacation and do whatever we would like. I make less in the summer for the opportunity to get paid all winter to do what I want.

Personally I love the first 2 weeks off, I get to hang out with our son, relax a bit. (lets be honest not much relaxing, he still wakes me up at 7-8am) After approximately 2 weeks I GO CRAZY! Get me out of the house, I need a purpose to get up everyday.  Don’t get me wrong obviously my wife and kid are my life, but I’m not the stay at home dad type. I will find a job that let’s me go away on vacation for a week or 2 and is flexible with hours. I personally don’t think I could retire early, it’s not in my blood.

Work

I love what I do, most days it really doesn’t feel like work. Free tan, nice workout and who doesn’t like running bobcats and excavators? If its 40 degrees plus, it sucks. That’s when Financial Independence would be key. Honestly that is not a common thing though. In my opinion landscaping is one of the most rewarding jobs I can think of. You start with a clean slate or a overrun place and can turn it into something fantastic. Ponds, Patios, Gazebos, fireplaces, night lighting its endless!  The clients love what your doing generally every day and you can feel it. If you are doing a job you generally don’t like, I recommend you start making the changes towards something you really do enjoy. You work so much why not enjoy it?

I have worked for some of the same clients my whole career. Yes they remember me when I was a 15 yr old kid. It’s pretty cool having that kind of relationship. They have seen me age and I have seen them age. That’s another reason I’m against FIRE, you really need to enjoy life now! Every April I see the same people I haven’t seen for the winter, its shocking to see their health. Some have really bad dementia, One client was telling me how he had 2 strokes and the doctors tell him to not leave the country anymore. One guy sold his business last year and we were working there and he pulled up and didn’t look so good. Now he had a air tank to help him breathe. Why would you want to wait until your FIRE to go away on vacation etc etc.

Living

My son has grown up so fast, I remember people telling me when he was a newborn – Enjoy it they grow so fast. Yeah Yeah I’d say I heard it a million times, well its true. I want to experience everything with him now. We generally go on a nice vacation every year. Cruises are my favorite, a new place everyday is fantastic. We went the 3 of us when he was 2 to Atlantis, Bahamas.  At the time we went I thought he would never remember the trip but he still talks about it and recognizes the pictures. Last year we cruised the canary islands. Oh man that was awesome! One of my favorite excursion’s ever was so cheap, riding a wicker sled down the roads in Funchal, Portugal (video is not us just one I found on you tube) My smile was probably bigger then my son’s haha.

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We moved into our new house on a 3/4 acre lot in the country from our small townhouse in the city. It definitely costs more, but its more of a community with the neighbor’s. I can go in my backyard and not have 20 different neighbors looking at what I’m doing. My dog can run outside in the backyard, we can play catch, work on gardens, grow our own food. Play sports on the driveway, fires in the backyard and great bbq parties. I would not of done this if we were committed to FIRE as the house mortgage costs/taxes/bills are generally twice as much as our old house.

Well there’s a couple reasons why I’m not a fan of FIRE. I think you need to live your life now, you never know what will happen tomarrow. Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, etc etc are multi billionaires and continue to work, not because they need to but because they want to.

Enjoy life now, but don’t be dumb. Know your limits and continue to save for the future.

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16 Responses

  1. dividendgeek says:

    Agreed! However, I would rather have the option for FIRE … having choice is important 🙂
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  2. I think if I loved my job that I would feel differently about FIRE. If I was working my passion along with spending time with my family that would be ideal. But with me being lukewarm about my job FIRE definitely sounds enticing 🙂
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  3. Leo T. Ly says:

    I am actually the opposite. I want to achieve FIRE as soon as I can. My definition of FIRE is freedom to choose what I do. I can start a second career, or volunteer or continue as a full time blogger. To achieve FIRE, I just have to be disciplined with my money. I don’t think that I am living a barebones budget. I am just spending my money on things that makes me happy.
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  4. I agree with you, though it would be nice to have the option to retire early. That’s what I’m going for.

    Wealth is the ability to experience life fully!
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  5. MrSLM says:

    Are you really against FIRE then? I think you just have this definition of early retirement as not working, but most I’ve seen take it as working on what you want to work on as opposed to “having” to work. You’re already working on what you want to work on.
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    • Hey mrslm I think the biggest thing I’m against in Fire is saving and sacrificing so much to be financial independent. Obviously it’s a great goal but one should still be doing great and fun things vs always sacrificing for fire.

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  7. Grant says:

    As others have stated I just want more freedom to choose how I spend my time without having to worry about the money. I think most people who have retired young aren’t just sitting around relaxing all day. Most of the ones I know are still very busy but they are only doing what the want to do and are passionate about.

    I do agree that you shouldn’t make yourself or family miserable just so you can quit your job young.

    • Hey Grant thx for swinging by. Always nice seeing new people. Yeah I’ve kinda switched my stance a bit on the early retirement. It would be nice to retire earlier and voluteer somewhere but yeah I think you should also enjoy your money now as well. Make a good balance essentially

  8. FI3000 says:

    I’m 100% committed to reaching FIRE so that I can make the choice of whether I want to work or not, but I do agree that it shouldn’t be at the expense of your health or happiness.
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